As'salamu'alaikum wr wb
No country is perfect. Yes that is so right.
I've been living in KSA almost 12 years. A little before that we decided to immigrate to Canada...........the reasons?................education was becoming really expensive for us with 3 kids in KSA and we thought that the kids would benefit from coming to Canada to continue education. They are still not of University age. But when I came to Canada 1 1/2 years ago, I was very disappointed how bad the education was here and that life wasn't so great we all dreamed of. My hubby couldn't get work here and stayed in KSA alhamdulillah. Now we will only finish citizenship here and move back to KSA as soon as possible. I guess you never appreciate something enough until you lost it. In my case that is so true. How come I thought the grass would be greener on the other side? I'll never understand that.
Sis Khadi..........they have in Jeddah an excellent clinic/school for kids with disabilities. A very wealthy family is taking care of the place and most staff and the construction of the place comes from Germany. I had a look at the place and couldn't believe my eyes how wonderful it is there. And it is far from expensive. They don't charge you more than you can afford. So don't give up hope yet sis.
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Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??
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#42
Posted 26 December 2004 - 06:18 AM
as salam alaikum dear sisters,
SIS UMKARIEM...please check your PMs, I thought we had lost contact for good!!!
So nice to hear from you again, alhumdolillah.
Looking forward to hearing from you, inshaALLAH>
Love and salam
Umbilal
SIS UMKARIEM...please check your PMs, I thought we had lost contact for good!!!
So nice to hear from you again, alhumdolillah.
Looking forward to hearing from you, inshaALLAH>
Love and salam
Umbilal
#43
Posted 26 December 2004 - 05:39 PM
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Assalamu Alikum,
I agree with sister mariam, no country is perfect and there will never be one b/c no one is perfect.
Not only does ksa has what sister mariam mentioned, but one of the things i like about it is that you can have fun, without doing anything haram. i can take a walk along the corniche or shop at a mall w/o seeing semi-naked women, amusement parks have a seperate lines and seperate turns for ladies and men, there are days at the zoo where only women and children can go, at restaurants each family sits behind a curtain or closed doors (so u can take off the niqab), no music in public places, etc.
Alhamidullilah for everything.
salam
I agree with sister mariam, no country is perfect and there will never be one b/c no one is perfect.
Not only does ksa has what sister mariam mentioned, but one of the things i like about it is that you can have fun, without doing anything haram. i can take a walk along the corniche or shop at a mall w/o seeing semi-naked women, amusement parks have a seperate lines and seperate turns for ladies and men, there are days at the zoo where only women and children can go, at restaurants each family sits behind a curtain or closed doors (so u can take off the niqab), no music in public places, etc.
Alhamidullilah for everything.
salam
Salaam aleikum
Okay, thats funny. Here in Norway, i can go to shoppingmalls and dont see any semi-naked women. Its not usual here. When i go to amusement parks, there is no problem if there is a man there, men dont touch women here randomly in a queue, like they tend to do in very segragated countries. They back off. Specially women in hijab, they dare not look at us, afraid that some Arab will jump out of the bush and being jalous hehe...
I hear music in public places once a year, and thats in christmas... But i am no fool, i would not dare to go shopping in christmas anyway. Sometimes there is music out, but easy to avoid, just go to a shop. They are quiet.
Assalamu Alikum,
All Praise is due to Allah (swt)
Sister, I think I wasn't clear, I grew up in North america and I was comparing my life in NA and here in KSA. In NA, (at least where I lived) there was semi-naked women everywhere during the summer months, even in the winter now they're wearing short jackets to show off their bellies. I know in some muslim countries men can touch women and in the west they won't do that, but here in ksa if a man does that he can get lashed!!
It's nice sister that Norway is more conservative than NA, but sis, are bars, cinemas, and casinos banned? Do u hear the athan 5 times a day? Can your husband perform his 5 daily prayers in the mosque? (u don't have to answer these questions) My point is we shouldn't be so quick to defend the nonmuslim countries and go against the muslim ones.
I am not saying that ksa is perfect, obviously there are things that they do that is not islamic, but no one's perfect.
Actually, I would rather live in the west than in some other muslim countries. Some muslim countries don't allow u to practice your religion, and they're so corrupted. i was just looking at a newspaper of an arab country (not ksa), and they had an advertisement for a mall, that mall has 11 cinemas in it!!!
I hope everything was clear and if i offended anyone please forgive me.
#44 Guest_karolin_karima_*
Posted 27 December 2004 - 01:58 PM
asalamu alaykum sisters!
I just want to share with u some fatwas about immigrating to a muslim country or is it hijra compulsory? According these it seems, that the Shaikh wants to say if u live in a non muslim country it is ok as well, but u have to give the message, do dawa coz that is very beneficial and I think the same u have to help other people to understand the truth and how can u do this in a muslim country?We must not leave our family and leave and let them to remain kufrs. This is my opinion. And as i told before it is phisically impossible that all the muslims in the world move to muslim countries. And anyway there are some countries where u can practise ur relegion worse than for example in UK.
the fatwas:
Question: Can you please explain to me if it is allowed for a Muslim to live in non-Muslim countries. Can you please give evidence, because I have had heard other people saying that Muslims are not allowed to live in non-Muslim countries.
Answered by Sheikh `Abd Allah b. Bayyah, professor at `Abd al-`Azīz University in Jeddah
It is allowed for a Muslim to live in a non-Muslim country in certain cases. A Muslim may live there for studying, medical, business or the like. Sometimes a Muslim would rather live in such countries if he faces serious threats in his home country. However, in all of these cases, he must be able to freely practice his religion in his country of residence.
It was related in the hadīth: O Fudayk establish prayer, pay Zakāk and abandon bad deeds and live with your people (the unbelievers) wherever you like. [Related by Ibn Hibbān all narrators are truthful].
Ahmad also related a hadīth which is evidence for living in non-Muslim countries. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: The countries are Allahs countries and the people are Allahs servants, so wherever you find good (living atmosphere), you may live.
Question: Is it lawful for a Muslim immigrate to a non-Muslim country from a Muslim country?
Answered by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah
If a Muslim can find a Muslim country where he can live safely with his family, practice his religion, and get a means of financial support, then he should not leave to live in a non-Muslim country.
However, if he cannot do so and he finds a non-Muslim country that guarantees his civil rights and allows him to practice his religion, then he may go there until Allah provides him with something else.
The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered his Companions to emigrate from Mecca to Habashah, which was an non-Muslim country inhabited by unbelievers and ruled by other than Islamic law.
http://www.islamtoday.net/newenglish/show_...&sub_cat_id=113
Karima
I just want to share with u some fatwas about immigrating to a muslim country or is it hijra compulsory? According these it seems, that the Shaikh wants to say if u live in a non muslim country it is ok as well, but u have to give the message, do dawa coz that is very beneficial and I think the same u have to help other people to understand the truth and how can u do this in a muslim country?We must not leave our family and leave and let them to remain kufrs. This is my opinion. And as i told before it is phisically impossible that all the muslims in the world move to muslim countries. And anyway there are some countries where u can practise ur relegion worse than for example in UK.
the fatwas:
Question: Can you please explain to me if it is allowed for a Muslim to live in non-Muslim countries. Can you please give evidence, because I have had heard other people saying that Muslims are not allowed to live in non-Muslim countries.
Answered by Sheikh `Abd Allah b. Bayyah, professor at `Abd al-`Azīz University in Jeddah
It is allowed for a Muslim to live in a non-Muslim country in certain cases. A Muslim may live there for studying, medical, business or the like. Sometimes a Muslim would rather live in such countries if he faces serious threats in his home country. However, in all of these cases, he must be able to freely practice his religion in his country of residence.
It was related in the hadīth: O Fudayk establish prayer, pay Zakāk and abandon bad deeds and live with your people (the unbelievers) wherever you like. [Related by Ibn Hibbān all narrators are truthful].
Ahmad also related a hadīth which is evidence for living in non-Muslim countries. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: The countries are Allahs countries and the people are Allahs servants, so wherever you find good (living atmosphere), you may live.
Question: Is it lawful for a Muslim immigrate to a non-Muslim country from a Muslim country?
Answered by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah
If a Muslim can find a Muslim country where he can live safely with his family, practice his religion, and get a means of financial support, then he should not leave to live in a non-Muslim country.
However, if he cannot do so and he finds a non-Muslim country that guarantees his civil rights and allows him to practice his religion, then he may go there until Allah provides him with something else.
The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered his Companions to emigrate from Mecca to Habashah, which was an non-Muslim country inhabited by unbelievers and ruled by other than Islamic law.
http://www.islamtoday.net/newenglish/show_...&sub_cat_id=113
Karima
#46
Posted 27 December 2004 - 05:39 PM
As-salamu Alaykum,
I'd just like to point out that there are also many opportunities to do da'wah in a Muslim country.
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but u have to give the message, do dawa coz that is very beneficial and I think the same u have to help other people to understand the truth and how can u do this in a muslim country?
I'd just like to point out that there are also many opportunities to do da'wah in a Muslim country.
#47 Guest_karolin_karima_*
Posted 27 December 2004 - 05:53 PM
Asalamu alaykum Sisters!
Sister Write4islam u are totally right that we can do dawa in muslim countries as well, there are not good muslims or hypocrates there too, but I think to do dawa for them it is a big task and must be done by a very knowledgable person. I am a revert only hamdullilah and I feel I would be shy to do dawa to a born muslim. I am only 1 year old muslim hamdullilah but already have some knowledge and it is enough to make dawa for my family and they are listening Al Hamdullilah especially my sister. And I feel the very first peaople to do dawa for is my family and u can be succesfull inshaAllah only if u meet them a bit often. I do not want to give up all my life call my parents to islam inshaAllah.
And unfortunately there are some examples that people who were born in islam and muslim countries were not good and practising muslims but when they moved to a non muslim country like USA and saw that life they changed totaly and became good Hamdullilah. There to see the bad side of life they understood what is islam and that thisis the truth and way of life SubhanAllah.
Karima
Sister Write4islam u are totally right that we can do dawa in muslim countries as well, there are not good muslims or hypocrates there too, but I think to do dawa for them it is a big task and must be done by a very knowledgable person. I am a revert only hamdullilah and I feel I would be shy to do dawa to a born muslim. I am only 1 year old muslim hamdullilah but already have some knowledge and it is enough to make dawa for my family and they are listening Al Hamdullilah especially my sister. And I feel the very first peaople to do dawa for is my family and u can be succesfull inshaAllah only if u meet them a bit often. I do not want to give up all my life call my parents to islam inshaAllah.
And unfortunately there are some examples that people who were born in islam and muslim countries were not good and practising muslims but when they moved to a non muslim country like USA and saw that life they changed totaly and became good Hamdullilah. There to see the bad side of life they understood what is islam and that thisis the truth and way of life SubhanAllah.
Karima
#48
Posted 27 December 2004 - 07:35 PM
Assalamu Alikum,
I lived in mississuaga, canada for several years and i kind of miss somethings about it. we lived close to a really nice mosque, my sister and I used to walk to it sometimes.
I agree with u sister write4islam, u can do dawa in muslim countries not only to muslims but also to the nonmuslims living there.
salam
ola
I lived in mississuaga, canada for several years and i kind of miss somethings about it. we lived close to a really nice mosque, my sister and I used to walk to it sometimes.
I agree with u sister write4islam, u can do dawa in muslim countries not only to muslims but also to the nonmuslims living there.
salam
ola
#49
Posted 28 December 2004 - 12:00 AM
Salam alaykoum wr Allah wb
My origin is moroccan but I was born in France. I have always lived in France and I often think about my future.
But I have never imagined to live in an other country or sometimes I imagine to live in England no far enough from my parents :oops: :oops:
But here in France it's veryy difficult to practice our religion!!! Un fotunately they creat their new law about laicity.
So girls can't wear their hijjab in high scholl or college.It's very difficult for us
but el hamdoullillah Allah is great and He preserve us against their hostile society.Kheir incha'allah.We must trust in Him and be patient because it's the key of success incha'allah.
Wa salam alaykoum my dear sisters
I love you in Allah
Ouhiboukoum fillah
My origin is moroccan but I was born in France. I have always lived in France and I often think about my future.
But I have never imagined to live in an other country or sometimes I imagine to live in England no far enough from my parents :oops: :oops:
But here in France it's veryy difficult to practice our religion!!! Un fotunately they creat their new law about laicity.
So girls can't wear their hijjab in high scholl or college.It's very difficult for us
but el hamdoullillah Allah is great and He preserve us against their hostile society.Kheir incha'allah.We must trust in Him and be patient because it's the key of success incha'allah.
Wa salam alaykoum my dear sisters
I love you in Allah
Ouhiboukoum fillah
#50
Posted 28 December 2004 - 05:27 PM
Assalaamu Alaikum,
Let's see, why do I live in a non-muslim country?? Well for one I am a revert to Islam and all my family was born and raised here in the U.S. My husband is Egyptian and he moved here for my sake mashaAllah. I have a lot of debt from school loans before knowing it was haraam, so we are trying to pay them off. It's not easy for him to live in his own country some times. The economy is very bad and we are a poor young family but alhamdulillah. InshaAllah we plan to move there once he has obtained a 2nd degree from the U.S. (his first coming from his own country) because we know he will make more money having been educated in the U.S. :?
We don't have any plans to become rich, but just would like a comfortable living there and have something to pass on to our children inshaAllah. I'm not worried about not being able to stay as my husband is a citizen and I can easily obtain citizenship there as well if I want it.
InshaAllah we will reach our goal. Right now we're happy with the situation that we're currently in to some extent. I'm able to wear hijab/jilbab at work with no problem. I make salah at work and all of my co-workers are respectful of my private time for that. I also have a wonderful opportunity to make dawah as I'm the only muslim that many of my co-workers have ever met subhanAllah. Plus, I am able to get off work early on Fridays for salaatul jummah mashaAllah. My hubby is just as blessed mashaallah. He works with other muslim brothers and the store closes on Fridays when they attend jummah together. They are also closed for the first day of each Eid so they can attend salah and enjoy the rest of the day.
UmmNadia
Let's see, why do I live in a non-muslim country?? Well for one I am a revert to Islam and all my family was born and raised here in the U.S. My husband is Egyptian and he moved here for my sake mashaAllah. I have a lot of debt from school loans before knowing it was haraam, so we are trying to pay them off. It's not easy for him to live in his own country some times. The economy is very bad and we are a poor young family but alhamdulillah. InshaAllah we plan to move there once he has obtained a 2nd degree from the U.S. (his first coming from his own country) because we know he will make more money having been educated in the U.S. :?
We don't have any plans to become rich, but just would like a comfortable living there and have something to pass on to our children inshaAllah. I'm not worried about not being able to stay as my husband is a citizen and I can easily obtain citizenship there as well if I want it.
InshaAllah we will reach our goal. Right now we're happy with the situation that we're currently in to some extent. I'm able to wear hijab/jilbab at work with no problem. I make salah at work and all of my co-workers are respectful of my private time for that. I also have a wonderful opportunity to make dawah as I'm the only muslim that many of my co-workers have ever met subhanAllah. Plus, I am able to get off work early on Fridays for salaatul jummah mashaAllah. My hubby is just as blessed mashaallah. He works with other muslim brothers and the store closes on Fridays when they attend jummah together. They are also closed for the first day of each Eid so they can attend salah and enjoy the rest of the day.
UmmNadia
#51 Guest_Aasia_*
Posted 29 December 2004 - 11:19 AM
Assallamu Alaykoem Warahmatullahi Wa Barakatu
I am South African and our country is known for its Tolerance and acceptance of not just one but many religions, cultures and languages. Although I would like nothing more than to move to Jeddah, I cannot afford to do so! for many reasons one I am not a proffesional, so I cannot get a good job that side.Second I look after both my parents, which I doubt I can do that side. thridly my aunt and her family live in Saudi and the horror stories i hear are atrocius, and we hear how spoilt Saudi children are because of the money their parent have and at function the women come in Hijjab but remove the Abbayas and wear skimpy little clothing underneath ( where is the modesty?) Alhandulillah there are more good things than bad things said about Saudi, and would still not mind living there as I believe that we are given so much freedom here that people forget Islam in the process. I have muslim friends who don't care wether or not they make Zinnah and have abortions because its with muslim boys that makes me sad :cry: and what i hate about others and myself is we are allowed to dress howver we want right or wrong but what do we do we chose haram most of the time! The problem with too much choices is that you are bound to make a couple of wrong decisions. But I am trying (insha Allah) to becoma a better muslim for the sake of the almighty. I can only hope for some of the restrictions of a muslim country because alahamdulillah it will keep us on the straight path. I know that in Saudi women aren't allowed to drive and if I had to move there it is the one thing I will miss! the freedom of movement but even then I will have more time to study and read and learn in Islam. Make dua for me that one day I can send my parents for Hajj. Insha-Allah as this is my dream!
I am South African and our country is known for its Tolerance and acceptance of not just one but many religions, cultures and languages. Although I would like nothing more than to move to Jeddah, I cannot afford to do so! for many reasons one I am not a proffesional, so I cannot get a good job that side.Second I look after both my parents, which I doubt I can do that side. thridly my aunt and her family live in Saudi and the horror stories i hear are atrocius, and we hear how spoilt Saudi children are because of the money their parent have and at function the women come in Hijjab but remove the Abbayas and wear skimpy little clothing underneath ( where is the modesty?) Alhandulillah there are more good things than bad things said about Saudi, and would still not mind living there as I believe that we are given so much freedom here that people forget Islam in the process. I have muslim friends who don't care wether or not they make Zinnah and have abortions because its with muslim boys that makes me sad :cry: and what i hate about others and myself is we are allowed to dress howver we want right or wrong but what do we do we chose haram most of the time! The problem with too much choices is that you are bound to make a couple of wrong decisions. But I am trying (insha Allah) to becoma a better muslim for the sake of the almighty. I can only hope for some of the restrictions of a muslim country because alahamdulillah it will keep us on the straight path. I know that in Saudi women aren't allowed to drive and if I had to move there it is the one thing I will miss! the freedom of movement but even then I will have more time to study and read and learn in Islam. Make dua for me that one day I can send my parents for Hajj. Insha-Allah as this is my dream!
#54
Posted 30 December 2004 - 06:11 AM
Assalamualaikum,
WELCOME to IslamWay Sisters!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all, I gotta spill the beans and tell ya I LOVE YOUR NAME! I always thought if I ever have a baby girl, I will name her Aasiyah! I just luv it luv it luv it! Mostly because of Aasiyah (the pharaoh's wife)'s personality and her faith for Islam and in Allah. Sorry, I just hadda tell someone..
Also, I hope you learn a lot and meet new sisters! Feel free to PM me or the other sisters anytime you like. :wink:
Wassalam
Zahra
WELCOME to IslamWay Sisters!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all, I gotta spill the beans and tell ya I LOVE YOUR NAME! I always thought if I ever have a baby girl, I will name her Aasiyah! I just luv it luv it luv it! Mostly because of Aasiyah (the pharaoh's wife)'s personality and her faith for Islam and in Allah. Sorry, I just hadda tell someone..
Also, I hope you learn a lot and meet new sisters! Feel free to PM me or the other sisters anytime you like. :wink:
Wassalam
Zahra
#55
Posted 30 December 2004 - 06:47 AM
Bismillahi Rahmanu Raheem.
As-Salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh dear sisters.
Dear sister Aasia
Welcome to IslamWay Sisters
Wa Salaamu alaikum,
Om-AbdulRahman. :wink:
As-Salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh dear sisters.
Dear sister Aasia
Welcome to IslamWay Sisters
Wa Salaamu alaikum,
Om-AbdulRahman. :wink:
#57 Guest_Aasia_*
Posted 31 December 2004 - 06:03 AM
Ma Salaam
Awww that was the sweetest welcome i have ever received. Let it be said that muskims are the worlds most generous open hearted people ever! I feel as is finally I have found a place where I fit! I live half way across the world, and we don't have the sense of community as this site makes you feel! i think I will be spending alot of time here, reading, replying but above all learning with other Muslim sisters, this is definitely a GLOBAL FAMILY.
P.S Any of you who want to PM me, please do so because I will reply to each and every message I receive.
Rasoollalah said if you vist me after my demise with the nieyat of visiting me, it becomes wajib for me to intercede for you.
Jumuah Mubarak, my sisters
Aasia
Awww that was the sweetest welcome i have ever received. Let it be said that muskims are the worlds most generous open hearted people ever! I feel as is finally I have found a place where I fit! I live half way across the world, and we don't have the sense of community as this site makes you feel! i think I will be spending alot of time here, reading, replying but above all learning with other Muslim sisters, this is definitely a GLOBAL FAMILY.
P.S Any of you who want to PM me, please do so because I will reply to each and every message I receive.
Rasoollalah said if you vist me after my demise with the nieyat of visiting me, it becomes wajib for me to intercede for you.
Jumuah Mubarak, my sisters
Aasia
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Posted 31 December 2004 - 04:26 PM
Assalamou aleikoum wa Rahmatoullah wa Barakatou,
I would like to come back to the misconception that we can stay in a non muslim country under the cloak of giving Dawah... I read many times on muslim websites, especially from the west, that we can be there because we give Dawah to non muslims....
this is not entirely accurate, because, we have Da'ees for this. It is their job, to give Dawah to the muslims and non muslims alike, because they are supposed to have the right amount of knowledge and the right words ... us, as lay people with limited knowledge ( and many times, we cannot answer questions from non muslims on the spot ), should of course give others the best example of what a good muslim(ah) should be, but it is not our responsibility to try ''save or put others on the right path''.. Rather, our individual responsibility is to save ourselves and our families first from the Fire, by following Islam rightly... Then, if we have the opportunity to give Dawah, Alhamdullilah...but this should not be our priority
Interpretation of the meanings of the Glorious Quran :
[u][i]At-Tahrim - 66:6
[b]O you who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allāh, but do that which they are commanded.
There was an excellent article from Shaykh Bin Baz, Rahimahullah that i read a few years back , on whom can stay temporarily or permanently in a kuffaar country, and what are their circumstances, such as medical treatment, work if work is not possible in the muslim country , Dawah (for Daees) etc... but once the circumstances are removed, then the person should go back to a muslim country...
Inshallah I 'll find it again....
p.s. Welcome to the board, Assia...
I would like to come back to the misconception that we can stay in a non muslim country under the cloak of giving Dawah... I read many times on muslim websites, especially from the west, that we can be there because we give Dawah to non muslims....
this is not entirely accurate, because, we have Da'ees for this. It is their job, to give Dawah to the muslims and non muslims alike, because they are supposed to have the right amount of knowledge and the right words ... us, as lay people with limited knowledge ( and many times, we cannot answer questions from non muslims on the spot ), should of course give others the best example of what a good muslim(ah) should be, but it is not our responsibility to try ''save or put others on the right path''.. Rather, our individual responsibility is to save ourselves and our families first from the Fire, by following Islam rightly... Then, if we have the opportunity to give Dawah, Alhamdullilah...but this should not be our priority
Interpretation of the meanings of the Glorious Quran :
[u][i]At-Tahrim - 66:6
[b]O you who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allāh, but do that which they are commanded.
There was an excellent article from Shaykh Bin Baz, Rahimahullah that i read a few years back , on whom can stay temporarily or permanently in a kuffaar country, and what are their circumstances, such as medical treatment, work if work is not possible in the muslim country , Dawah (for Daees) etc... but once the circumstances are removed, then the person should go back to a muslim country...
Inshallah I 'll find it again....
p.s. Welcome to the board, Assia...
#60
Posted 01 January 2005 - 07:36 AM
Asalamu Alaikum
Well sis I was born and raised here ( in a non Muslim country ) my entire
life and havent been anywhere else :shock: English is the only language
I speak and my family is here. My dh cant really find much work anywhere else because of the field hes in but we have talked about making Hijra but can not at the moment, just seems impossible although
most of my dhs family lives in Muslim countries but would love to live in
the west :? :shock: I sis Kamillah have thought of doing the same thing
moving by the mountains to stay away from the fitnah of the world.
That is my dream inshallah and would love to do it one day.
Well sis I was born and raised here ( in a non Muslim country ) my entire
life and havent been anywhere else :shock: English is the only language
I speak and my family is here. My dh cant really find much work anywhere else because of the field hes in but we have talked about making Hijra but can not at the moment, just seems impossible although
most of my dhs family lives in Muslim countries but would love to live in
the west :? :shock: I sis Kamillah have thought of doing the same thing
moving by the mountains to stay away from the fitnah of the world.
That is my dream inshallah and would love to do it one day.
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