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MUSLIMS IN RECOVERY


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Posted 25 July 2004 - 03:59 AM

Asalaamo aleykum wa Rahmatullah wa barakatuhu,

Is there anyone out there who is in recovery from alcohol or drugs???

Someone who found that becoming Muslim was the best thing for them, and who goes to meetings wearing there hijab, feeling out of place and yet understands that without the meetings identifying with others who struggled with staying clean and sober, and finding that by being in this place of others in recovery from addiction that the Conscious Contact I seek with Allah only becomes stronger by clearing the Cobwebs of my active using.

I am feeling embarrassed by even posting this, but I feel so alone and even in the Mosque this is such a closed subject.
You see I know the Prophet (PBA) mentioned Alcohol can become a disease, therefore letting me know that he knew about Alcoholism even before the groups of AA/NA were created.

I have allowed my guilt and shame keep me away from my community because, I do not know how to even call someone when I become fearful of drinking, yes I pray to Allah to remove this from me, and because of the long time I have been exposed to using, the waiting for it to pass is the hardes thing. And so this is why I must talk to someone in recovery because they talk back about there experiences too
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See I hope someone out there understands that I know that being Muslim will save my life and my childrens life as well, and I go to the meetings to remember that by my own hand I can destroy everything that Allah has given me back, and yet I still feel like I am doing something wrong being a Muslim who knows that only someone else in recovery can and will notice my relapsing back into my old patterns, and someone in the Mosque will not because it is only between me and Allah.

And because I am not suppose to reveal my nightmares of using.

All I know is right now at this moment I feel torn because I have tried just to keep going to the mosque and yet could not disclose my secrets that kept me hurting because of the piousness or righteousness that I believed that other Muslims reflected. I believe they will not understand and start to move away from me or Shun me because of my past, and my still involvement in NA/AA.

And so I pray that Allah will forgive me for being so courageous, and continue to provide me with the help and appreciation that 16months of being clean and sober gives me.

I just know that I am the only sister out here who is visible, and who does not want to change her beliefs because she has sinned, found forgiveness, and yet feels alone because there is not another Muslim sister that is willing to reveal or break her Anonymity.

This disease of Alcoholism,Addiction has taken so much from me already and I don't wonna loose my identity as some other sisters'have because of the fear of being judged and because of the fear of not being understood.

The identification with the disease of Addiction is what both programs talk about, however my personal recovery must find identification with someone else who believes in Allah, The Prophet, Makes Salat, Reads there Quran and see's the steps in it, Believes in the Angels, and believes what a Muslim should believe.

Remaining firm in it, and accepting that  recovery does not mean change who your God is because Recovery is a spiritual journey that drugs and alcohol took us from.

I begged Allah to bring me back to the path, and I pray that he continues to do for me what I cannot do for myself, like having someone in recovery reply to this.

HELP :!:  :!:  :!: HELP  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 04:10 AM

Welcome to the board and to Islam.

Well, I think you took a first step by wanting to change.  That is the hardest step of all and you ahve already took it.  

I quit drinking a while ago, soon after I became a Muslim and learned that drinking was haram.  It was one of the best things I ever did. I am sure it will be for you as well.  It was not easy as I was around bad people at the time. I did not need recovery classes, as I had the willpower and Allah to help me.  Besides praying, what also helped me was to remember what life was like while I drank.  I was not around good people, bad things can happen when you are drinking (even if you are not the one drunk), and it is not very productive in your daily life.  Think of your future goals, whatever they may be and keep your sights in them and ask Allah to help you and he will.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 09:55 PM

As-salaam Alaikum sister Umpti.  Well, al hamdulillah that you have quit and are courageous enough to post this subject.   Hmm, first of all no one can judje you, second of all just because these people look so pious doesn't mean they don't have sins they are struggling with also.

I am so glad that you are on the forum and look forward to getting to know you!!!
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Posted 25 July 2004 - 10:03 PM

You said in your post that in the masjid this is such a closed subject.  Well it should not be.  InshaAllah when I get my degree in social work, this is one area that I would like to emphasize.
Please do not feel alone, of course Allah (swt) wants you to suceed and loves you.  But Shaitan wants you to feel alone and will try to discourage you with depression.  

Keep coming here for the support you need.   Also see if your masjid has a social worker?  If not why not talk to your Imam and tell him what an important issue this is?  How many other reverts have this problem and feel alone like you?  Despite your past you are now our sister and we must help you, protect, and rally around you.  Please don't feel alone, inshaAllah with much dua you will be sucessful.  Well that is my feeble attempt at advice and upliftment.
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Posted 01 August 2004 - 04:24 PM

Assalaamu Alaikum

May Allah protect muslims from all evil

(I just noticed something right now as I was typing, that I made a type error that I just corrected. The word EVIL. If you BREAK apart the letters of EVIL - it spells out VEIL [hijab] ) SubhanAllah

I have a friend who has never drank alcohol in her life up until 2 days ago. I'm happy to know that she has revealed this to me. I know the only help I can give her beyond my words of encouragement is by making many du'as for her. May you also do the same.

But she heard that if you drink alcohol, the alcohol stays in your body for 40 days and that you can't pray. She is also not sure about touching Quran.

She has deeply regretted and asked Allah to forgive her. She admits that she was desperate and allowed shaytaan temptation to come into her thoughts. May Allah forgive her.

I told her that I do not know about not praying for 40 days or not touching the Quran during this time.  I told her to make many du'as until I get back to her. I also told her that Allah knows the intention of us and not worry if she is truly sorry for her mistakes.

If anyone can provide anything from the Quran or hadith.
May Allah be with us all

"Life the veil from your hearts to see the heart of purity"

Assalaamu Alaikum
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Posted 01 August 2004 - 09:07 PM

Assalamu Alaikum
Muslimah4life75 here is a Fatwah about the situation of one who drinks alcohol:

Make plenty of dua for your friend, try to take her to religious talks at the Mosque and steer her away from temptation.



Question #27143: Will the prayers of one who drinks alcohol not be accepted for forty days?  

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Is the report narrated from the Messenger of Allaah Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which says that whoever drinks alcohol, his prayers will not be accepted for a period of forty days, saheeh?.

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.  

Yes, there are many saheeh ahaadeeth concerning the punishment for one who drinks alcohol, which say that his prayers will not be accepted for forty days.
This was narrated from ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, Ibn ‘Abbaas, Ibn ‘Umar and Ibn ‘Amr.

See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 709, 2039, 2695, 1854.

One of these ahaadeeth was narrated by Ibn Maajah (3377) from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever drinks alcohol and gets drunk, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days and if he dies he will go to Hell. But if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. If he again drinks alcohol and gets drunk, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days and if he dies he will go to Hell. But if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. If he again drinks alcohol and gets drunk, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days and if he dies he will go to Hell. But if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance. If he commits (this sin) again, then Allaah pledges to make him drink the mud of khabaal on the Day of Resurrection.” They asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, what is the mud of khabaal?” He said, “The juices of the people of Hell.”
Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.


[size=18color=darkred]The fact that his prayers are not accepted does not mean that they are not valid, or that he should give up praying, rather it means that he will not be rewarded for them. [/color]

So the benefit of praying will be that he will have discharged his duty and will not be punished for not doing it.

Abu ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mandah said: The words “his prayer will not be accepted” mean that he will not be rewarded for his prayer for forty days, as a punishment for his drinking alcohol, just as they say that the one who speaks on Friday when the imam is delivering the khutbah should pray Jumu’ah but there is no Jumu’ah for him, meaning that he will not be given the reward for Jumu’ah as a punishment for his sin.

Ta’zeem Qadr al- Salaah, 2/587, 588. See also question no. 20037.


Al-Nawawi said:

With regard to his prayer not being accepted, what this means is that he will not be rewarded for it, even though it is valid in the sense that he has discharged his duty and does not need to repeat it. End quote.

No doubt the person who drinks alcohol still has to perform the prayers on time. If he were to delay any of his prayers, he would be committing a grave major sin, which is worse than the sin of drinking alcohol.

This punishment for drinking alcohol applies to the one who does not repent. But if he repents to Allaah and turns to Him, He will accept his repentance and accept his good deeds, as it says in the hadeeth quoted above: “… but if he repents, Allaah will accept his repentance.” And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who repents from sin is like one who did not commit sin.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 4250; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.

And Allaah knows best.



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InshaAllah this helps sister!

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 09:36 PM

Jazak Allah Khair for responding. I also posted this in Islamic Rulings under :What are the consequences for alcohol? I don't know who the moderator is on Islamic Rulings but you might want to add the same reponse to it.

But I am not close to this sister as I wish I could be. Right now she is living in Boston. I am trying to make arrangements to see her and be with her for a while insha'Allah. If I am not able to, I hope I can meet some sisters from Islamway that are in Boston that might be able to talk to her in person. Allah knows best.

May Allah guide us to stay on the straight path of Islam
Assalaamu Alaikum
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Posted 04 August 2004 - 03:20 AM

As-sal`aamu:alay-kum:

Subhaan-Allah
I would like to thank the sisters for there response to my topic and it has renewed my faith and strengthened my determination to move closer to Allah.

The recovery meetings, and step work tells us about the conscious contact that we must gain with a higher power, that is Loving, Caring and Greater than myself.

This is one of the most, if not the most important part of my recovery. You see meetings are good, however when I am alone with myself and no one around what do I do, this is what counts.

I have watched the people of the meetings and seen how they have been freed just by turning there will over constantly, and you know what I have come to understand and accept .

This is no different than me asking Allah to forgive me every time I have a thought of using, and everytime I ask Allah to take the thoughts from my mind. Did not the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.A) say that" he asked Allah for forgive 99 times a day." (May Allah forgive me if I am wrong, and if there is anyone who will correct me, please do.)

You see what is amazing about being in recovery and seeing my deen in a new light, the fog is lifted, I see that the Submission that Islam speaks of is also taught in the rooms of recovery. The rooms cleared away the fog so I could see my Lord's purpose for me clearer, and I'm getting there.

The program is  not a religious program it is a spiritual program . Spiritual by only repeating what Allah considers values, and spiritual principals that I can use and implement in my new life today.

This keeps me from trying to defend Islam and also keeps me from trying to share about my faith without the correct information. (MISINFORMATION IS WHAT I WILL NOT AND CANNOT BE APART OF)

You know the zealousness of the heart when you want the Non-muslims to understand the difference between my religion and your religion is in the way it is practiced, and the changes made in the Gospel and Torah are spoken of in the QURAN.

However the real reason I am there is to keep learning how to cope with the feelings, face the shadows of my addiction, forgive myself, and  dig deeper into becoming the best Muslim I can be.

A MUSLIMAH THAT WILL DRINK A COLD CUP OF WATER FROM THE RIVER OF PARADISE, AND ALSO SIT UNDER THE SHADE TREE OF PARADISE.

This is what keeps me writing about my recovery, my beliefs, my fears, and this is why I keep writing because I needed to know I am not the only one.

May Allah continue to give us the chance to talk more about Muslims in Recovery and May the Sunnah of the Prophet continue to give me hope.

What I have learned is that it  will be me who stands in front of Allah and be held accountable, not others, not circumstances, not people, places and things today.

And so I keep recovering from Salat to Salat, dua'a to dua'a one day at a time.

Ma-Salaam
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 02:13 AM

Assalamo Alaikum sisters

Ma sha' Allah.....I'm happy for you siste umpti that you're recovering, and that you're getting closer to Allah......Alhamdolilah.

I just wanna add this......an experience   biggrin.gif

My math teacher asked me why we Muslims don't drink alcohol...and I explained to him why, and told him about the physical consequences and side effects from alcohol on the human body.  And then he was like...."ok...I don't think you can tell me how drinking 1-2 times a month can hurt my health....I don't think that that's gonna hurt my health at all..in fact...it only makes me feel better".  I honestly didn't know what to tell him  :? .  But I know that Allah prohibited alcohol for a reason, and that the prophet (saw) said that little amounts of something that is haram is also haram for a reason.  So I went online and found out amazing facts....that  really supported me.  I found out that even little amounts of alcohol....it doesn't matter how little you drink per month, that it can effect your nerve cells pretty bad....since it goes to your bloodstream directly to your nerve cells and alter their function.  I showed him the results and what I found out and he was amazed.....btw...the studies on that subject were made in Spain by American scientists.  I was thrilled by what I got, and felt so proud that I'm a Muslim.  Because everything Allah said and the prophet said are true....so Islam is a true religion.  

......Subhan Allah.....

"و ما ينطق عن الهوى"

Assalamo Alaikum





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