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[Nejwa]

Salaam Aliekum!

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"Christians and Jews also worship Allah."

The Christians don`t worship Allah (swt) because Allah (swt) is one The christan believe that God is three (the trinaty) How can God be three that aren`t locigal for me :wink:

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"I am impressed with Prophet Jesus's(pbuh) preaching. "Love Your Enemies", "Pray for your enemies". It seems Jesus's preaching is loving all humans without bothering about their religion."

But then the question is:Living the Christan after this? No, they start wars for example they killed North-American Native and they started the second world war and see what they do in Iraq/Iran.Is that love you enemies :shock:  :?: When he preached to other people he wanted them to chance the religion :wink: the Muslim do that same when the muslim make dayah :wink:

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"I don't like some of old concepts in Islam such as wearing hijab, shariah etc. In my opinion, Religion is man-made. We can be a good person to Allah and go to heaven even without being a muslim. Allah sees inner heart, inner mind. He doesn't see how you look outward."

Allah (swt) have some rules that he want/must us to follow if we shall belive in him.Even the Bible say so :wink: If you think religion are man-made why are you then so intresting in Christanity or want to exploring religion?

Nejwa

[rayofhope04]

Assalamu alaikum

Let's get back to the basics sisters  

Islam means submission to the One true God (in Arabic Allah) Allah is just God's favored name.

When there is a truth, it will never change, right? Other things cannot and should not sway the truth or even try to. Why? It will always be true!

If I say, I was born free but I like learning about communists and I don't know the meaning of freedom, hey! I may end up liking communism right? And I would never know if 'freedom' was the right thing. But that doesn't change the fact that all humans are free, in their speech, mind, everything..

Same goes for Islam. The one thing we must get right is what Islam really is! Is it the media, men oppressing women, terrorists? NO!

To be a muslim, one has to believe there is NO GOD but GOD...that is the most logical thing, too logical actually. Islam was the religion of ALL the prophets. Muhammad (salallahu alahi wassalam) did NOT bring Islam for the first time, Adam (AS) did!!!!

Because all the prophets believed there was NO GOD but GOD they were Muslim, all of them.

Over time, branches started coming off of the truth, ie. Islam. People started making idols out of famous/respected people: that's where idol worship came from. The people who kept rejecting Musa (AS)'s message but who changed it to fit their needs eventually became the Jewish people. When 'Isa (AS) or Jesus conveyed his message, he said to worship God (Allah) only.

But there was a guy, Saul, who during Isa (AS)'s lifetime hated that message. After Isa (AS) died Saul came and told everybody that he knew for sure how to practice 'Isa (AS)'s message. Saul, who now changed his name to Paul, started making things up like 'Isa (AS)'s divinity (astaghfirullah) and started making the religion easier. (IE. If the people had followed Musa and Isa (AS)'s message COMPLETELY they would be muslim today as well because they would be submitting to one god)

Modern day christianity is also a synonym for Paulism, the religion Paul made up. Modern day christianity does not worship Allah, it worships the trinity of father, son, holy ghost. And the funny thing is, it's not even supposed to make sense! Christians believe that the only way trinity can make sense is if the holy ghost (Jibreel) will allow the person to understand!

Just look in the names of these two religions: CHRISTianity and JUDAism, they are names of PEOPLE not GOD When people start venerating good people, sects emerge, to the point where it is a totally new religion.

Islam is and will be the truth forever..

If you want more proof on Islam, check out www.islam-guide.com

Also, you are right, 99.9999999999% of religions are manmade absolutely, you just disproved yourself, there is no need to study other religions besides Islam, because Islam is the 0.0000000001%

'Islam came as a stranger, and will leave as a stranger. So glad tidings on the strangers' -Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wassalam)

a world of darkness cannot put out one candle of light..Ie. whatever the world says, thinks, does, Islam will remain.

--> Islam is not man-made.

Also, having faith in Allah means doing whatever pleases Him. If we wear tight clothes, no hijaab, we are actually in a sense, worshipping the SOCIETY's CORRUPTED IDEALS is society God? Of course not! Astaghfirullah but some people act like it is..Worship means to devote oneself to something or someone and doing whatever it takes to please that thing.

Since we should do everything to please Allah, every little thing, how can we NOT do things like Hijaab which is explicitly said in the Qur'an (surah Noor, surah Ahzab)??

oooh man, I have to give the piece of meat speech again  :roll:

In the 'modern' society, whatever you call it, WOMEN have to dress in a seductive manner to please MEN...they are better if they show more skin and do what the men ask them to do. Who controls all these stupid fashions? MEN! Women are treated like a PIECE of MEAT, yep, in this society...Have you heard of all the students who sleep with their professors for a better grade, employees having affairs with bosses, etc??

Islam GAVE WOMEN RIGHTS Islam ordains HIJAB so women are protected and looked for their personality rather than sex appeal. that part of the woman is for her husband only because other people will obviously do harm to her! Islam gave women voting rights, right to own property, right to choose who to marry, men LITERALLY buried their daughters ALIVE before the final message of Islam was revealed to our Nabi (salallahu alayhi wassalam).

In Christianity, women are NOTHING. in christianity, Eve (Hawwa) caused all of mankind to get out of heaven because she supposedly made Adam (AS) eat from the tree too. When we know in Islam, it wasn't their fault. It was Allah's will and Shaitan tempted them. In christianity, just because of Eve's 'mistake' all of humanity is deemed sinful. Just think, WHO in their right sane state of mind, would think a newborn BABY is sinful???

In Islam, babies are SINLESS, they are the purest. When someone reverts to Islam (since we are all born muslim-submitting to no god but God (Allah) ) they are pure like a baby again.

Why did Mary/Maryam wear hijaab? She was the epitome of how a Muslim woman should be!!!

"if Christianity is based on falsehood and lies, how come christians are more advanced than Muslims?"

:shock:   you're kidding right? Did you know Muslims made breakthrough in modern science, ALGEBRA (get it Arabic numerals, ahhhahahhahahahhahah that was a funny one, eh? :mrgreen:) and many other things?? In the 'middle ages' or 'dark ages' CHRISTIANS were NOT allowed to study science for this reason, and this is FACT look in ANY history book...the rulers thought, if the people learn about different sciences, they will leave Christianity!

In Islam, science is completely promoted, why? Islam is the reason for science! Allah willed it to happen! As a muslim, if someone studies science, this will only make their faith in Allah increase.

'Allah sees inner heart, inner mind'

Sister, if someone doesn't want to wear hijaab or pray or do something obligatory in Islam, what does that say about that person? Either they are scared, or they feel like they're too good to do that. Now what do those things say about his inner character: he thinks he's self-sufficient, "Oh I don't need Allah's help and guidance, i will do every thing Seventeen magazine tells me to! yay" But don't worry, I still believe in Allah...

this statement contradicts itself..If someone HAD FAITH they would do whatever it takes to please Allah. if they do not do what Allah told them to, they do not have faith. (I mean on purpose, for ex. if someone's family is non-muslim and won't let them wear niqaab, that's understandable, but hijaab at least, scholars say, is required)

:arrow: I highly suggest you study Islam from the basics, there are excellent posts in this forum which can help you a lot. Just go back to, What is Islam? what is Tawheed? after that, go to the details. Also, if you have been raised in an environment where everyone is muslim, maybe you might take it for granted that you are muslim? maybe, just think about that.

"why are you in Christian country UK"

as far as I know, pretend I am a shoemaker okay? I send my shoes to germany to sell. someone says, i like those german shoes! but, they are not German! I made them originally!! same with the world, the Creator, Allah, created everything and all the countries belong to him. Also, i thought the UK was a government not based on religion? And I thought the only 'christian' country is Vatican city? maybe i'm wrong


may Allah (swt) guide us on the straight path, Ameen

wa salaamu alaikum

Zahra :wink:

[muslimsister]

Assalaam for those who follow the guidance,
Why do I have the strong feeling that this is another imposter?

Do you want us to give you proofs that child marriages took place in Christianity and were blessed by the priests in the early part of the Christian era?

Do you want us to give you quotes from the bible where puportedly a Prophet of Allah (and this is a lie) commits incest?  

Or do you just want to throw out this stuff and hope it causes someone to question Islam? If you want the truth, read what is being written.  If you want something else, Allah will protect our religion.

[muslimsister]

Assalaam to those who follow the guidance,


In the unlikely event of the survival of the English monarchy into the 21st century -- with the helpful loan of the Stone of Scone from her ever- courteous neighbors to the north -- it is just conceivable that the future king might wish to consolidate his grasp upon the family billions by announcing his engagement to a future Duchess of Glasgow in order for there to be a royal wedding to keep American devotees of the throne up until 4 AM to join voyeuristically in the festivities. But if said Duchess should turn out to be seven years of age, there would be a barely stifled shriek of horror from every television station in the land that would otherwise have joined in the celebration, and there would be an immediate rush to denial on the front pages of the Star and Globe Weekly, which would also be salivating as they have not done since the discovery of the body of little Jo-Benet Ramsay. The spectre of pedophilia -- that last taboo, which has threatened to close down sections of the Internet to scholars in our day -- would immediately rear its dreadful head. The future king would be whisked away for extended treatment in an exclusive sanatorium at an un-named location. The Queen Mum would have a heart attack on the spot. Fergie would snigger.

And yet it is the case that in 1396, Richard II of England was joined in marriage to young Isabel of France, who had been 7 years old when their engagement was announced the previous year in Paris. Not only was there no uproar; there was considerable happiness expressed over the assumed probability that this marriage would end the Hundred Years War then in one of its periodic states of truce between the two kingdoms. Peace was to be ensured by joining together this man and this little girl in marriage. If some scholars are correct, Geoffrey Chaucer even celebrated the arrival of the little queen in England, in the formal but funny balade, "To Rosemond," remarking her "chekes round," clowning for the child, like "a pike, walwed in galantyne," possibly inducing thereby merry giggles and yet another pension. [See *The Riverside Chaucer* (Houghton Miflin, 1987) ed. Larry D. Benson et al, pp. 649 and 1082 -- where there is, however, note of disagreement among readers, Robbins endorsing Rickert's "conjecture" that the poem was addressed to "Richard II's child-bride," but Edward Vasta being willing to put the poem much earlier, around 1369-70, despite its formal polish.] If it is indeed addressed to Isabel in this way and for this purpose, then it could be argued that Chaucer was just one more profiteer from this bargain, joining in the happy welcome of the little girl to her marriage bed.

The difference between these responses to the prospect of child marriage is one of the clearest markers of the Otherness of the Middle Ages from the 20th century. The very idea of child marriage -- the use of a child as a bargaining chip, a counter in the game of family politics and inheritance -- is as abhorrent to us as it was apparently completely non-exceptionable in the 14th century. A social practice which entered the written record in the 12th century, but which seems to have had roots in the barbaric past, that extended from the royal abattoirs down to the lives of neighboring fishmongers and shop-keepers in medieval London, yet that seems to have received little more than passing notice in canon law beyond exhortation to limit it to age seven and ensure mutual consent of the parties, is now regarded with horror and disgust by decent- minded people from every point along the political and social spectrum. But still it is not even indexed in most contemporary discussions of medieval marriage and family life, from Barbara Hanawalt to James Brundage, GL Brooke to Frances & Joseph Giese, Ian MacFarlane to Georges Duby.
http://www.thedigitalfolklife.org/childmarriage.htm

[sarah_anisah]

Assalamu Alaikum SISTERS

Why do I have the strong feeling that this is another imposter?

You are not the only one thinking this....

Therefore I am closing this particular avenue for these pathetic creatures to try and infiltrate us...

Allah knows their game and Allah is just.


Sarah