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Posted 30 January 2005 - 05:56 AM

salam alaikum sisters.  I have recently accepted Islam, praise be to Allah he has guided me on his path.  I want to learn everything so fast , I'm so anxious to furhter my knowledge.  To begin I only speak english.  I'm so ready to learn Arabic.  Ijust do not know where to begin.  Here are a few of my questions?
1. How to pray?
2. Is it okay to pray in english until I learn Arabic?
3. Is it possible to learn Arabic, I'm 21 and it seems almost impossible?
Just for the input, I am extremely at peace now that I know my religion. I feel such serenity and peace.  I am just a little nervous. Allah willing Iwill learn how to pray speak Arabic and progress my knowledge.
Well that is all for now. Thank you all for being here to help guide me through and taking time to listen.  Peace be upon you all.

                                                     Sahla

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 07:45 AM

Bismillahi Rahmanu Raheem.
As-Salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh dear sisters. smile.gif

Dear sister Sahla,

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Regarding your question:
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2. Is it okay to pray in english until I learn Arabic?
Please see the following fatwa:

Question #5410: A new Muslim finding it difficult to recite al-Faatihah  


Question :


I am a native English speaker trying to learn Arabic, In Sha' Allah. When I Alhamdu lillah embraced Islam, I memorized Surah Al-Fatihah from a transliteration of the Arabic. This fall I began to study more about salah (prayer) and in a book of fiqh I read that if a person omits or mispronounces 1 letter or vowel of Al-Fatihah in salah, his recitation is invalid. When I read this I became so worried, because although I am studying Arabic, there are some Arabic letters I still cannot pronounce at all, and some I cannot pronounce well. I started to listen to a taped recitation of Al-Fatihah and I love to hear it recited, but I feel discouraged because my recitation is so poor compared to the Qari's. Since I read that ruling, I have become so nervous in my recitation of Al-Fatihah in salah that instead of focusing on the meaning, I think about how poor my pronunciation is. When I hear myself mispronouncing letters, I go back over the ayat, trying to correctly pronounce them again. But what happens is that I either make the same mistakes again or make new ones! Often I end up reciting Al-Fatihah more than once or a certain ayah more than once because I feel so worried that my prayers are not being accepted because I can't pronounce some of the letters. I have become so nervous that sometimes I even mispronounce letters I usually can pronounce during my recitation. What should I do? May Allah reward you for any help you can give me.

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.  

1 – Reciting Soorat al-Faatihah is a pillar or essential part of prayer – according to the correct scholarly view – and it is obligatory upon the imam who leads the prayer, the one who prays behind an imam and the one who prays on his own.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever offers a prayer in which he does not recite Umm al-Kitaab (i.e., al-Faatihah), it is defective” – and he said it three times. It was said to Abu Hurayrah, (What if) we are behind the imam? He said, Recite it to yourself, for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, “Allah said: I have divided prayer between Myself and My slave into two halves, and My slave shall have what he has asked for. When the slave says: Al-hamdu lillahi rabbi l-alamin (All the praises and thanks be to Allaah, the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists), Allah says: My slave has praised Me.

And when he says: Ar-Rahmaan ir-Raheem (The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful), Allah (mighty and sublime be He) says: My slave has extolled Me

and when he says: Maaliki yawm id-deen (The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)), Allah says: My slave has glorified Me - and on one occasion He said: My slave has submitted to My power.

And when he says: Iyyaaka na’budu wa iyyaaka nasta’een (You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything)), He says: This is between Me and My slave, and My slave shall have what he is asking for.

And when he says: Ihdina’s-siraata’l- mustaqeem, siraat alladheena an’amta alayhim ghayril-maghdoobi alayhim wa la’ d-daalleen (Guide us to the Straight Way. The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger, nor of those who went astray), He says: This is for My slave, and My slave shall have what he has asked for.”

(Narrated by Muslim)

So the worshipper must recite it properly in Arabic, because we are commanded to read and recite the Qur’aan as it was revealed.

2 – Whoever is unable to pronounce it properly because of some defect in his tongue or because he is not an Arabic-speaker must learn to correct his pronunciation as much as he can.

If he cannot, then he is relieved of this obligation, because Allaah does not burden people with more than they are able to bear.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope”

[al-Baqarah 2:286]

3 – If a person is unable to recite al-Faatihah at all or is unable to learn it, or he has just become Muslim and the time for prayer has come and there is not enough time for him to learn it, then he is given a way out in the following hadeeth:

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Abi Awfa said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, teach me something of the Qur’aan that will suffice me, for I cannot read.” He said, “Say: Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah (Glory be to Allaah, praise be to Allaah, there is no god except Allaah and Allaah is Most great, there is no god except Allaah and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah).” The man made a grabbing gesture with his hand (indicating that he had learned a lot) and said, “This is for my Lord, what is there for me?” He said, “Say: Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni wahdini warzuqni wa ‘aafini (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, guide me, and grant me provision and good health).” He made another grabbing gesture with his other hand and stood up.

(Narrated by al-Nasaa’i, 924; Abu Dawood, 832. Its isnaad was classed as jayyid by al-Mundhiri in al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 2/430. al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar indicated that it is hasan in al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 1/236)

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If a person does not know any Qur’aan, and he cannot learn it before the time for prayer is over, then he must say Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah (Glory be to Allaah, praise be to Allaah, there is no god except Allaah, Allaah is Most great and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah), because Abu Dawood narrated that a man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I am not able to learn anything of the Qur’aan, so teach me something that will suffice me.” He said, “Say, Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah.” The man said, “This is for my Lord, what is there for me?” He said, “Say: Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni warzuqni wahdini wa ‘aafini (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, grant me provision, guide me, and give me good health).” But he does not have to do more than say the first five phrases, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) only said that, and he only told him more when he asked for more.

(end of Ibn Qudaamah’s words)

But if a person is able to recite part of al-Faatihah only, he should recite that which he is able to recite. And he has to repeat what he can recite well (i.e., so that the total number of what he recites will be seven verses, equivalent to the number of verses in al-Faatihah).

Ibn Qudaamah said:

It may be sufficient for him to say alhamdu-Lillaah (praise be to Allaah), laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (there is no god but Allaah) and Allaahu akbar (Allaah is most great), because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whatever you know of Qur’aan, recite it, otherwise praise Allaah, proclaim His Oneness and magnify Him.”  (Narrated by Abu Dawood)

(al-Mughni, 1/289, 290)

What you have read about the prayer being invalid if the worshipper mispronounces a single letter of al-Faatihah cannot be taken as general in meaning. Not every mistake in al-Faatihah invalidates the prayer; rather it cannot be invalidated unless something is omitted from al-Faatihah, or the pronunciation is changed in a way that distorts the meaning. Moreover, this ruling on the prayer becoming invalid applies to those who are able to recite al-Faatihah correctly or who are able to learn it but do not.

As for those who are unable to do so, they should recite it as best as they can, and that does not affect them, because Allaah does not burden a soul beyond its scope. One of the basic principles established by the scholars is that nothing is obligatory when a person is unable to do it. See al-Mughni, 2/154.

In this case a person should recite al-Faatihah as best as he is able, and then glorify Allaah, praise Him, magnify Him and proclaim His Oneness (by saying Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah), so that this will make up for whatever he has missed out of al-Faatihah.

See al-Majmoo’, 3/375.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

Is the prayer of one who mispronounces al-Faatihah valid or not?

He replied:  

If a person mispronounces al-Faatihah in a way that does not distort the meaning, his prayer is valid, whether he is leading others in prayer or is praying alone.

But with regard to the kind of mispronunciation that distorts the meaning, if the person knows the meaning, such as if he says ‘Siraat allaadheena an’amtu ‘alayhim [meaning “The way of those on whom I have bestowed my grace”, instead of the correct version an’amta (The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace)], and he knows that this verbal form is wrong, then the prayer is not valid. But if he does not know that he is distorting the meaning, and he thinks that this form is second person singular rather than first person, then there is a difference of scholarly opinion on this point. And Allaah knows best.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawam 22/443

He was also asked about when a person ends a word with –i that should end in –a when praying (or renders it genitive when it should be accusative).  

He replied:

If he is aware of what he is doing and he does it deliberately, then his prayer is invalid, because he is playing about in his prayer. But if he is unaware of that, then his prayer is not invalid, according to one of the two scholarly views.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 22/444

So you must try hard and keep practising it. You can do this by reciting it to another Muslim sister who can recite it well, and by listening to soorahs recited by skilled reciters on tapes or broadcasts.

There is no need to feel nervous and anxious, because Allaah knows what is in people’s hearts, and He knows who is trying hard and making the effort, and who is lazy and heedless.

The difficulty that you find in reciting Qur’aan will increase your hasanaat (good deeds) and rewards. It was narrated that ‘Aaishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who is skilled in reciting Qur’aan will be with the noble and obedient scribes (i.e., the angels?) and the one who reads the Qur’aan and struggles with it because it is difficult for him will have two rewards.”

(Narrated by Muslim, 798)

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The one who struggles with it is the one who is hesitant in his recitation because he is not able to memorize it well. He will have two rewards: the reward for reciting it and the reward for his efforts in reciting it.  

There is no need to repeat verses more than once, because this is not what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did or taught. Rather that opens the door to waswaas (whispers from the Shaytaan), detracts from the prayer, makes you lose your focus, distracts you from pondering the meaning of the verses and makes the Shaytaan happy, because from that he can find a way to make you suffer so that you will ultimately give up praying. But Allaah is Most Gracious and Most Merciful, and He is more merciful towards us than we are to ourselves, and He does not burden us with more than we can bear .



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InshaAllah you found this information beneficial. May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala make your learning easy.
I look forward to your posts inshallah.
WaSalaamu alaikum,
Om-AbdulRahman.  :wink:

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 09:57 AM

Assalamu'alaykum
WELCOME TO THE FORUM

and

CONGRATULATIONS on your reversion, may Allah subhanahuwa ta'ala make it easy for you, ameen

I hope you'll take time to read what our sister posted above, it is really usefull information, mashAllah.
You can always ask any questions whenever you want. We have sisters from all over the world so there is always someone on-line  :wink:

We are many struggeling to learn arabic.
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3. Is it possible to learn Arabic, I'm 21 and it seems almost impossible?  


NO, no, no!!! I'm at your age and I'm trying to speak. SubhanAllah we have older sisters who never spoke arabic before and now they speak. It is not impossible, believe me  biggrin.gif

Do you have some friends that are muslims?

I recognixe the eager to want to learn more all the time, but take it slow. Things will come in time, inshAllah. Take one step at the time. Right now I would suggest that you learn how to pray. There are also some flashes on the sites (in one of the link that our sister posted).
You're welcome to return and ask any questions.

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 03:51 PM

Assalamu Alaikum,

Mash'Allah I am sooo happy to hear that you are a new muslim. smile.gif I reverted 1 year ago now, subhan'Allah the time has went by soo fast! I'm gonna tell u exactly what others told me....take your time!!! If you try to do too much at once, it might not work out for the best in the end. Insha'Allah the links the sister posted for you will be beneficial and insha'Allah it won't take you too long to learn/memorize the surahs and how to pray. I think it took me about a week or 2 of stumbling on words and then it started flowing, mash'Allah.


QUOTE(Sahla)

Just for the input, I am extremely at peace now that I know my religion. I feel such serenity and peace.  I am just a little nervous.                Sahla


I know EXACTLY how you feel. Everything has ssoooo much more meaning now and I really feel at ease. Insha'Allah everything will be easy for u.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 09:08 PM

Salam ALaikum Sister,

As for your first two questions; a scholar might be a more suitable person to answer in sha Allah

As for your third question; yes you can study arabic in this age (21). There's many converts who are much much older than you and could not only speka arabic fluently; in fact they could read and make quran translations!

All you have to do is to love the language, learn it without any embarressment (speak it), and just well... DO it! biggrin.gif  :wink:

All the best sister :wink:

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Posted 10 February 2005 - 03:52 AM

As salamu aleiykum.
Yes, you can learn Arabic at any age. I am over 60 and just started a few months ago. It goes slowly, but that is to be expected. So don't think you can't do it. With Allah's help you can achieve anything. Just pray and He will help you.
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