When was Isa AS (Jesus) born????????????
Posted 27 March 2005 - 09:19 PM
My non-Muslim Family (May Allah guide them, Ameen)
Would like to know when Jesus Alaihe Sallam was Born? Was he really born on December 25th?? where is the proof?
Also They have no idea why they are celebrating Easter which is No surprise, but InshaAllah this is the perfect time for me to give them Dawah, but for now the question is When was Isa (Jesus) Alaihe Sallam Born????
JazakumAllah Khairan for any responses
Posted 27 March 2005 - 11:34 PM
I know for sure that Isa (alayhe sallam) wasn't born on december 25th. I think his birth was in the spring, but I am not sure, and I think they have calculated his birth to be like 7 BC...En sha' Allah, I will do some research and try to find the answers.
Posted 28 March 2005 - 12:04 AM
Posted 28 March 2005 - 12:42 AM
You are right sister lena. Christmas is about Jesus' Birth, and Easter about the crucifixion.
Posted 28 March 2005 - 12:49 AM
Thank you so much for your replies....
I was in a rush while writing it so I wasnt clear about my question lol, I was asking about christmas lol not Easter, Because my family wanted to know when he was born if it wasnt on December 25th, and then i mentioned since it is Easter for them It is a perfect time for me to give dawah to them InshaAllah...so far They have no idea what easter is or christmas...as far as they are concerned it is a time for Presents and chocolate and to get togetehr as a family...as they are not very religious...but I was trying to make some points to them as to why we should not celebrate these days and so on....
Again thank sisters and Blessed by Allah I will check out the Link now, and I am sorry for the confusion in my first post lol
Posted 29 March 2005 - 06:06 AM
there is a hadeeth on when Isa (peace be upon him)was born, it was 600 hundred years before the prophet Muhammad( peace and blessings be upon him).
Posted 29 March 2005 - 06:46 PM
In Quran surah Maryam ayat from 23 through to 25 talk about when Maryam a.s was in labour she shook the date tree and ate fresh dates. Well that was/is impossible to do on December 25th!!!!!!!!
This is from Tafsir.com
[فَأَجَآءَهَا الْمَخَاضُ إِلَى جِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ]
(And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date palm.) This means that her pains of labor compelled her to go to the trunk of a date-palm tree that was at the place where she had secluded herself. The scholars differed over its location. As-Suddi said, "Her place of seclusion was to the east and that was where she would pray at the Sacred House of Jerusalem.'' Wahb bin Munabbih said, "She ran away and when she reached an area between Ash-Sham and Egypt, she was overcome by labor pains.'' In another narration from Wahb, he said, "This took place eight miles from the Sacred House of Jerusalem in a village that was known as Bayt Al-Lahm (Bethlehem).'' I say, there are Hadiths about the Isra' (Night Journey of the Prophet ) that are reported by An-Nasa'i on the authority of Anas, and Al-Bayhaqi on the authority of Shadad bin Aws, that say that this took place at Bait Al-Lahm. Allah knows best. This is what is well known that the people all relate from each other. The Christians have no doubt held that the place of this occurrence was Bethlehem and this is what all the people relate. It has been related in a Hadith also, if the Hadith is authentic. Allah says, informing about her,
[قَالَتْ يلَيْتَنِى مِتُّ قَبْلَ هَـذَا وَكُنتُ نَسْياً مَّنسِيّاً]
(She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!'') In this is an evidence of the permissibility to wish for death when a calamity strikes. She knew that she was going to be tested with the birth, the people would not assist her, and they would not believe her story. After she was known as a devout worshipper among them, they now thought that she had become a fornicating whore. She said,
[يلَيْتَنِى مِتُّ قَبْلَ هَـذَا]
(Would that I had died before this,) She said this to mean before this situation.
[وَكُنتُ نَسْياً مَّنسِيّاً]
(and I had been forgotten and out of sight!) This means, "I wish I had not been created and I was nothing.'' This was mentioned by Ibn `Abbas. Qatadah said,
[وَكُنتُ نَسْياً مَّنسِيّاً]
(and I had been forgotten and out of sight!) "This means something unknown, forgotten and no one knew who I was.''
[فَنَادَاهَا مِن تَحْتِهَآ أَلاَّ تَحْزَنِى قَدْ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحْتَكِ سَرِيّاً - وَهُزِّى إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ تُسَـقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَباً جَنِيّاً - فَكُلِى وَاشْرَبِى وَقَرِّى عَيْناً فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ البَشَرِ أَحَداً فَقُولِى إِنِّى نَذَرْتُ لِلرَّحْمَـنِ صَوْماً فَلَنْ أُكَلِّمَ الْيَوْمَ إِنسِيّاً ]
(24. Then he cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not: your Lord has provided a Sariy under you.'') (25. "And shake the trunk of date palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon you.'') (26. "So eat and drink and rejoice. And if you see any human being, say: `Verily, I have vowed a fast for the Most Gracious so I shall not speak to any human being today.,'')
InshaAllah that it helps
Posted 29 March 2005 - 06:56 PM
Also I found the following
Was Jesus Born on Dec. 25th?
Neither the date 25th Dec. nor any other date on Jesus' birth is
mentioned in the Bible. Not until the year 530 C.E., that a monk, Dionysus Exigus, fixed
the date of the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th. "He wrongly dated the birth of Christ
according to the Roman system (i.e., 754 years after the founding of Rome) as Dec. 25,
753". (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998 ed.) This date was chosen perhaps in
keeping with the holidays already indoctrinated into pagans.
Roman pagans celebrated Dec. 25th as the birth of their 'god' of light, Mithra. "In
the 2nd century A..D., it (Mithraism) was more general in the Roman Empire than
Christianity, to which it bore many similarities" (The Concise Columbia
Encyclopedia, 1995 ed.)
"The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December
25 remains uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the
date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the
unconquered sun" (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the winter
solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to climb higher in the
sky". (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998 Ed.)
Other pagan 'gods' born on Dec. 25th are: Hercules, the son of
Zeus (Greeks) Bacchus, god of wind, (Romans),Adenis god of Greeks Freyr the Greek-Roman
the rest of the article is here http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Par...stmas/what.html
(I hope that the link is OK, haven't checked it appart from the article)
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